Comments on: When Angry Activists Attack – Perspective Diffuses Persecution http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/ Welcome! Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:08:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Twitted by RThomasETC http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-4860 Twitted by RThomasETC Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:22:59 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=884#comment-4860 [...] This post was Twitted by RThomasETC [...] [...] This post was Twitted by RThomasETC [...]

]]> By: Randy Thomas http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-4806 Randy Thomas Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:16:43 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=884#comment-4806 <p>Thank you Brandon.  I will pray that you will have the wisdom on knowing how to push healthy honest conversation without actually being "pushy."  Brothers tend to be pushy (I know from being the older pushy brother to my younger brother :) )  It's part of how brothers tend to do things :).</p> <p>May God grab all of our hearts and change our lives for the better daily :).</p> Thank you Brandon.  I will pray that you will have the wisdom on knowing how to push healthy honest conversation without actually being “pushy.”  Brothers tend to be pushy (I know from being the older pushy brother to my younger brother :) )  It’s part of how brothers tend to do things :) .

May God grab all of our hearts and change our lives for the better daily :) .

]]> By: Randy Thomas http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-4805 Randy Thomas Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:12:55 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=884#comment-4805 <p>That is interesting isn't it.</p> That is interesting isn’t it.

]]> By: Brandon http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-4804 Brandon Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:57:00 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=884#comment-4804 Thanks for the post, my brother Derrick is very vocal about his gay lifestyle and gets upset very easily.  He like the lady in your story can be verbally abusive.  It is tough not knowing how far to push.  I pray daily that God grabs his heart and changes his life.  Keep up the good work! Thanks for the post, my brother Derrick is very vocal about his gay lifestyle and gets upset very easily.  He like the lady in your story can be verbally abusive.  It is tough not knowing how far to push.  I pray daily that God grabs his heart and changes his life.  Keep up the good work!

]]> By: Brady http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-4803 Brady Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:51:24 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=884#comment-4803 It's interesting how we can come from such different worldviews but have similar issues, especially regarding the "other side" reacting in the ways that they do. It’s interesting how we can come from such different worldviews but have similar issues, especially regarding the “other side” reacting in the ways that they do.

]]> By: College Jay http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-4802 College Jay Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:30:55 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=884#comment-4802 I also often feel the way Frank does, although I often feel I'm in the 0.1% of the 0.5% with <em>everyone </em>else pushing down on me.  It's easier for me to love my enemies when they are non-believers.  It's much more difficult when they are fellow Christians, especially fellow Christians who also struggle with homosexuality but who have taken different approaches than I have.  Hopefully we can all work towards reconciliation. I also often feel the way Frank does, although I often feel I’m in the 0.1% of the 0.5% with everyone else pushing down on me.  It’s easier for me to love my enemies when they are non-believers.  It’s much more difficult when they are fellow Christians, especially fellow Christians who also struggle with homosexuality but who have taken different approaches than I have.  Hopefully we can all work towards reconciliation.

]]> By: Randy Thomas http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-4798 Randy Thomas Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:10:35 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=884#comment-4798 <p>LJ, I will pray that His love would be so present and uplifting that you will see that in truth, you are swimming in His Grace and hatred has no power there.</p> LJ, I will pray that His love would be so present and uplifting that you will see that in truth, you are swimming in His Grace and hatred has no power there.

]]> By: Randy Thomas http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-4797 Randy Thomas Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:07:39 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=884#comment-4797 <p>Wow Catherine.  Thank you so much for the strong encouragement and prayer.  Very uplifting.  I, and I am sure the Exodus staff, all appreciate it.</p> Wow Catherine.  Thank you so much for the strong encouragement and prayer.  Very uplifting.  I, and I am sure the Exodus staff, all appreciate it.

]]> By: LJ http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-4793 LJ Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:43:21 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=884#comment-4793 Thanks for this post.  I definitly feel the way Frank does, like I'm in t 0.5% and the world is the 99.5% pushing down on me.  Its so easy to forget to pray for love when it feels like I'm drowning in Hate. Thanks again. Thanks for this post.  I definitly feel the way Frank does, like I’m in t 0.5% and the world is the 99.5% pushing down on me.  Its so easy to forget to pray for love when it feels like I’m drowning in Hate.
Thanks again.

]]> By: Joe Bruce http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/15/when-angry-activists-attac-perspective-diffuses-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-4784 Joe Bruce Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:55:27 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=884#comment-4784 2 cor 4 is a short chapter and seems appropriate - enjoy!  :-) [<strong>1</strong>] Therefore, having this ministry by the mercy of God, we do not lose heart. [<strong>2</strong>] We have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways; we refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God's word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. [<strong>3</strong>] And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. [<strong>4</strong>] In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the likeness of God. [<strong>5</strong>] For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake. [<strong>6</strong>] For it is the God who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. [<strong>7</strong>] But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, to show that the transcendent power belongs to God and not to us. [<strong>8</strong>] We are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not driven to despair; [<strong>9</strong>] persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; [<strong>10</strong>] always carrying in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our bodies. [<strong>11</strong>] For while we live we are always being given up to death for Jesus' sake, so that the life of Jesus may be manifested in our mortal flesh. [<strong>12</strong>] So death is at work in us, but life in you. [<strong>13</strong>] Since we have the same spirit of faith as he had who wrote, "I believed, and so I spoke," we too believe, and so we speak, [<strong>14</strong>] knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence. [<strong>15</strong>] For it is all for your sake, so that as grace extends to more and more people it may increase thanksgiving, to the glory of God. [<strong>16</strong>] So we do not lose heart. Though our outer nature is wasting away, our inner nature is being renewed every day. [<strong>17</strong>] For this slight momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, [<strong>18</strong>] because we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen; for the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal. 2 cor 4 is a short chapter and seems appropriate – enjoy!  :-)

[1] Therefore, having this ministry by the mercy of God, we do not lose heart.
[2] We have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways; we refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.
[3] And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing.
[4] In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the likeness of God.
[5] For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
[6] For it is the God who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
[7] But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, to show that the transcendent power belongs to God and not to us.
[8] We are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not driven to despair;
[9] persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed;
[10] always carrying in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our bodies.
[11] For while we live we are always being given up to death for Jesus’ sake, so that the life of Jesus may be manifested in our mortal flesh.
[12] So death is at work in us, but life in you.
[13] Since we have the same spirit of faith as he had who wrote, “I believed, and so I spoke,” we too believe, and so we speak,
[14] knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.
[15] For it is all for your sake, so that as grace extends to more and more people it may increase thanksgiving, to the glory of God.
[16] So we do not lose heart. Though our outer nature is wasting away, our inner nature is being renewed every day.
[17] For this slight momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison,
[18] because we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen; for the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal.

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