First, here is the video. It’s long (for an online video) but well done and interesting:
My overall impression is that this is a very well produced video. Great camera shots, flow, narration and humanizing to all involved. The camera/editing didn’t try to hide reality or characterize negatively. That said, Hadyn’s testimony (the man on the post-gay journey) was interspersed in between the two gay men’s testimonies (both named Anthony) at strategic points. This created an overall narrative which could leave an impression that if you don’t reject a Christian post-gay approach in the early stages … you will at some point.
And that is not true.
Some might, many might, but many of us haven’t and won’t go back. We aren’t “cured,” never claimed to be, but many do experience changes across the spectrum of their lives to where they move beyond the totality of what it means to be “gay.” Some also experience shifts in their sexual orientation and some have done so completely. Regardless of that, whether a person changes slightly, completely or not at all … success is contentment in, obedience to and submission to the Lordship of Christ regardless of circumstances. Success is knowing that God’s love for me isn’t dependent on me or my behavior. His love empowers the grace that strengthens me even more than any weakness that might seek to overwhelm. Freedom means that my past or present struggles don’t define who I am or determine how I behave. They do not limit my options and God’s love empowers spiritually driven obedience and opens up a universe of possibility in Him.
Also, I don’t know exactly the theological depth of what Hadyn meant by his quick statements about being gay and a Christian but I disagree with him. Of course I believe Christians who participate in homosexual behavior are out of bounds concerning a biblical sexual ethic but being “gay” also involves identity, cultural ideology and often exclusive relational paradigms/possibilities. Salvation is only dependent on faith in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. God didn’t make me figure all the “gay” issues out before I could be saved. I was saved before I even had a change of heart about any of those complex and difficult beliefs. He may not have meant it as an issue of salvation but that is how it came across to me. I would imagine, hope, that Hadyn and I were more on the same page than not. Plus, none of that diminishes the respect I have for his testimony.
I know of Christians, including myself, who have sexually sinned either physically or in our hearts. God forgave us once and for all at the cross, continues to cleanse and redeems all in due time. Yet, I would agree that the fruit of our Christian walk also bears witness to what is most important in our lives. If a person identifies as gay and Christian but their lives are more about being/defending/defining being gay and homosexual behavior than Christ … we have a right to question, as one believer to another, if being a “gay Christian” is just another version of cultural Christianity. A cultural Christianity (many brands by the way) which isn’t based on the gospel but based on cultural/political correctness (i.e. ideology not theology.)
The same question could be asked of any Christian who is more about a sect or denomination than the Gospel. It could be asked of a political Christian who is more about the culture war than personal relationship with Jesus. It should also be asked of those of us on a Christian post-gay journey as well … is it truly part of our Christian journey or is my sense of being derived from only the context of overcoming homosexuality? Anyone who says “I am a (fill in the blank) Christian” could ask themselves that question.
Being a Christian needs no other description. Being found in Christ is our only primary identity. All the other complexities of life are supposed to be based in that core simplicity (for the Christian.)
There is definitely a sharp comparison/contrast being made in the three stories featured in the video above. It is very important to listen to the testimonies of all three (the two gay identified men and the one man on a Christian post-gay journey.)
The first man who identifies as gay said that he was exposed to gay bar culture for the first time by his “ex-gay” leader. Stories like that are very unfortunate. Leaders manipulating/misusing their roles of authority should be challenged and removed from leadership. It’s also a glaring example of why leaders need to be in ongoing accountability and transparency.
In the few times I have heard of similar situations here in the states (the video is from Australia) we have to investigate (in what is an appropriate role between Exodus and our autonomous Member Agencies) and depending on the circumstances will depend on what action would be taken. However, it is based in honesty, grace and redemption, not damage control or punitive as some would have you believe. Exodus does not police the autonomous ministries in our network but we do have ministry standards and every allegation is researched.
For the older man in the video who identifies as gay and went through 22 years of church culture and attempts to “exorcise” or “convert,” all I have to say is his experience is so far removed from what I have experienced. I would love to meet him personally, face to face, to try and understand.
Someone suggested I blog about how this process (post-gay journey) might actually be more difficult for people raised in the church than for people who became Christian later in life. I don’t know that this is true and am still thinking through it. But as I watched that part of the video I couldn’t help but think how grateful I am to not have struggled within the environment he describes. And I felt bad for him. I can understand why he appears to be bitter.
And of course Haydn and his wife were excellent. Very humble, forthright. Loved it. Even with my disagreement over the gay Christian statement he made, I am very glad he was honest. His wife and child are beautiful and I am happy for them.
So, what did you think of the video?
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couldnt get the video to come through for me on this posting…. is there a link to it somewhere else?
couldnt get the video to come through for me on this posting…. is there a link to it somewhere else?
Wow, was that really unbiased or was it just my imagination? I think my speakers were playing tricks on me because I actually heard soft music playing while Haydn was sharing his story… maybe itunes was playing in the background? Woohoo! Go Haydn.
They did do an excellent job and I don’t think it was your imagination.
Wow, was that really unbiased or was it just my imagination? I think my speakers were playing tricks on me because I actually heard soft music playing while Haydn was sharing his story… maybe itunes was playing in the background? Woohoo! Go Haydn.
They did do an excellent job and I don’t think it was your imagination.
I agree with Randy that the video was well-done and that each person was represented fairly and not demonized. I also agree with Randy that the way the interviews were weaved together left the impression that “if you don’t reject a Christian post-gay approach in the early stages … you will at some point.” I was left with the temptation to believe that the young man on the post gay journey (Hadyn) would inevitably throw in the towel as the other men did.
The media is a powerful tool, to be sure. It can subtly instill doubt. However, I know from my own experience and the experience of many others who have surrendered their sexuality to God, that it those Christians who OVERCOME (read Revelation) that God says “Well done, good and faithful servant.” I believe Hadyn is one of those Christians who has and will continue to overcome because of what Christ overcame for him – and for all of us.
Amen. Glad we are on the same page and I will join you in believing for good things for Haydn. But I am also believing good things for all three
I agree with Randy that the video was well-done and that each person was represented fairly and not demonized. I also agree with Randy that the way the interviews were weaved together left the impression that “if you don’t reject a Christian post-gay approach in the early stages … you will at some point.” I was left with the temptation to believe that the young man on the post gay journey (Hadyn) would inevitably throw in the towel as the other men did.
The media is a powerful tool, to be sure. It can subtly instill doubt. However, I know from my own experience and the experience of many others who have surrendered their sexuality to God, that it those Christians who OVERCOME (read Revelation) that God says “Well done, good and faithful servant.” I believe Hadyn is one of those Christians who has and will continue to overcome because of what Christ overcame for him – and for all of us.
Amen. Glad we are on the same page and I will join you in believing for good things for Haydn. But I am also believing good things for all three
I am currently in recovery and I went to a 60 day program last summer. It has been a year and a half since I have been in an innapropriate relationship with another man. I am so comvinved that the world needs to hear from people like us who turned our lives over to God. It is very important that we people go looking for a quick fix because that will never come.I had never heard of people walking away from the lifestyle until September 08. After my last relationship. I think we need to spread the word of the freedom of Jesus Christ who loves everyone. No matter what they choose.
God bless you Kevin and thank you for your comment. You are so right , God’s love isn’t dependent on us… but it is up to us whether we receive that love or not.
I do and He sustains me.
Thanks for posting this, Randy. I think Haydn probably had more to say about being gay and Christian than what was on this obviously edited clip. There’s and “extended play” version on the Hungrybeast website, but for some reason you can’t view it unless you live in Australia. There is a link to the post-show open dialogue, and Hayden says a bit more there. I don’t know how to do the html language to imbed the link, so here’s the address – http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/hungry-beast-forum-gay-conversion
For me, the major contrast in these kind of stories is always the focus (or not) on submission. Both of the Anthonys state that they tried, and I won’t discount that. But neither of them mention submission as Haydn does. So I do wonder (not judge) whether or not it was mainly an attempt at works righteousness. Many, many Christians that I’ve encountered as a pastor do not know the difference. I’m so glad that Haydn figured it out.
Karen, in the future just highlight a word and the chain-link icon will light up in the text box. Click on that and it will give you a chance to make a hyperlink. What you did was automatically converted to a link but in the future it will save comment space to do the link.
And thank you for providing that by the way.
I agree with you. There are many many reasons why people walk out of/go back/come back/waiver and a bit one is of course the daily submission to and communion with Christ. I agree with you, I don’t know those two other men and am not judging whether they did try that or not … it’s just a common general principle I have seen.
Also, thank you for pointing out the video to me in the first place!
Thanks for the link info, and you’re welcome!
Thanks for posting this, Randy. I think Haydn probably had more to say about being gay and Christian than what was on this obviously edited clip. There’s and “extended play” version on the Hungrybeast website, but for some reason you can’t view it unless you live in Australia. There is a link to the post-show open dialogue, and Hayden says a bit more there. I don’t know how to do the html language to imbed the link, so here’s the address – http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/hungry-beast-forum-gay-conversion
For me, the major contrast in these kind of stories is always the focus (or not) on submission. Both of the Anthonys state that they tried, and I won’t discount that. But neither of them mention submission as Haydn does. So I do wonder (not judge) whether or not it was mainly an attempt at works righteousness. Many, many Christians that I’ve encountered as a pastor do not know the difference. I’m so glad that Haydn figured it out.
Karen, in the future just highlight a word and the chain-link icon will light up in the text box. Click on that and it will give you a chance to make a hyperlink. What you did was automatically converted to a link but in the future it will save comment space to do the link.
And thank you for providing that by the way.
I agree with you. There are many many reasons why people walk out of/go back/come back/waiver and a bit one is of course the daily submission to and communion with Christ. I agree with you, I don’t know those two other men and am not judging whether they did try that or not … it’s just a common general principle I have seen.
Also, thank you for pointing out the video to me in the first place!
Thanks for the link info, and you’re welcome!
God bless you Kevin and thank you for your comment. You are so right , God’s love isn’t dependent on us… but it is up to us whether we receive that love or not.
I do and He sustains me.
Of all the video’s I have viewed regarding the issue of homosexuality and change (put forth via regular media), this one has been the best by far. If I was gay and had heard of Christ and change and then watched this video I would have concluded, not worth my time to spend 22 plus years only to end up in the same place.
If I could have contributed to this video I would have added one more person. A person who has experienced a successful life in Christ and who has experience a change in sexual orientation. Then you would be left to try it for yourself.
Also at the end the last, or one of the last clips with the gentleman that was the pastor for 22 years sounded like he was saying something else beyond, it’s OK to be gay and a Christian, at least in his mind. He continues to say, that it is morality that is a choice, not my orientation. I believe that what he is saying is true. That you can choose to not sleep sexually with members of the same sex and not experience a change in orientation. It would be interesting to hear more of his position on the issue.
Thanks for posting this Randy.
Of all the video’s I have viewed regarding the issue of homosexuality and change (put forth via regular media), this one has been the best by far. If I was gay and had heard of Christ and change and then watched this video I would have concluded, not worth my time to spend 22 plus years only to end up in the same place.
If I could have contributed to this video I would have added one more person. A person who has experienced a successful life in Christ and who has experience a change in sexual orientation. Then you would be left to try it for yourself.
Also at the end the last, or one of the last clips with the gentleman that was the pastor for 22 years sounded like he was saying something else beyond, it’s OK to be gay and a Christian, at least in his mind. He continues to say, that it is morality that is a choice, not my orientation. I believe that what he is saying is true. That you can choose to not sleep sexually with members of the same sex and not experience a change in orientation. It would be interesting to hear more of his position on the issue.
Thanks for posting this Randy.
Hi all this is Haydn, the man himself. You can go to my blog, where I posted all three versions of the story, including the extended one: http://fjordsofzion.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/my-abc-interview/.
As to Randy’s point a about being gay and Christian, the subtle nuances of my point were excluded from the on-air version. I said that a person cannot willingly hold onto their sin and try to submit to God and call Him saviour at the same time. Though they may sin and continue in sinful sex acts, they must in their heart reject their sin and keep bringing it to God, not embracing both Jesus and God at the same time. Anthony Venn- Browns position is that it’s okay to be undubmissive to Jesus and claim to be a Christian at the same time, which is undefendabble.
I was able to better articulte my position on the Hungry Beast forum: http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/hungry-beast-forum-gay-conversion.
God bless, Haydn.
Hi Haydn! Thanks for joining us here. Even with the intentional editing of the aired program, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, your testimony was awesome.
I’d be interested in hearing how you were selected for the program. Are you willing to share that?
Haydn, thanks for including the link to your website and from there to Hungrybeast. Even so, you still have to live in Australia to view the extended interview version.
Dear Haydn,
I agree with you that “a person cannot willingly hold onto their sin and try to submit to God and call Him Savior at the same time.” God showed me great mercy when I fell into sin as a Christian, and I believe if I had died when I was doing that, I would NOT have been separated from God. However, I did not stay for long in that way of life and thiking. The Holy Spirit really convicted me, and I asked God to keep me in his will even in my confusion. He did this and eventually rescued me.
As you mentioned, being a Christian has everything to do with confessing our sinfulness before God and thanking God for “saving” us from our sin. To call ourselves Christian and yet stay in unrepentant sin is a dangerous place to be. I think those that call themselves “Gay Christians” need to consider this and the Scripture that talks about “going back to wallowing in the mud.”
Blessings to you and your wife and child! Thanks for having the courage to speak out about your experience and to defend the gospel and our Lord Jesus Christ!
Hi all this is Haydn, the man himself. You can go to my blog, where I posted all three versions of the story, including the extended one: http://fjordsofzion.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/my-abc-interview/.
As to Randy’s point a about being gay and Christian, the subtle nuances of my point were excluded from the on-air version. I said that a person cannot willingly hold onto their sin and try to submit to God and call Him saviour at the same time. Though they may sin and continue in sinful sex acts, they must in their heart reject their sin and keep bringing it to God, not embracing both Jesus and God at the same time. Anthony Venn- Browns position is that it’s okay to be undubmissive to Jesus and claim to be a Christian at the same time, which is undefendabble.
I was able to better articulte my position on the Hungry Beast forum: http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/hungry-beast-forum-gay-conversion.
God bless, Haydn.
Hi Haydn! Thanks for joining us here. Even with the intentional editing of the aired program, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, your testimony was awesome.
I’d be interested in hearing how you were selected for the program. Are you willing to share that?
Haydn, thanks for including the link to your website and from there to Hungrybeast. Even so, you still have to live in Australia to view the extended interview version.
Dear Haydn,
I agree with you that “a person cannot willingly hold onto their sin and try to submit to God and call Him Savior at the same time.” God showed me great mercy when I fell into sin as a Christian, and I believe if I had died when I was doing that, I would NOT have been separated from God. However, I did not stay for long in that way of life and thiking. The Holy Spirit really convicted me, and I asked God to keep me in his will even in my confusion. He did this and eventually rescued me.
As you mentioned, being a Christian has everything to do with confessing our sinfulness before God and thanking God for “saving” us from our sin. To call ourselves Christian and yet stay in unrepentant sin is a dangerous place to be. I think those that call themselves “Gay Christians” need to consider this and the Scripture that talks about “going back to wallowing in the mud.”
Blessings to you and your wife and child! Thanks for having the courage to speak out about your experience and to defend the gospel and our Lord Jesus Christ!
I wish they would have included at least one more perspective of an individual who hadn’t experienced any shift in sexual orientation — even after a long period of time — but was still chaste and seeking the Lord. I know several men in their 40s and 50s who live such a life and I think it would have balanced the segment just a little more to show someone of that age and circumstance who hasn’t “given up.”
I wish they would have included at least one more perspective of an individual who hadn’t experienced any shift in sexual orientation — even after a long period of time — but was still chaste and seeking the Lord. I know several men in their 40s and 50s who live such a life and I think it would have balanced the segment just a little more to show someone of that age and circumstance who hasn’t “given up.”
Hello, I hope you don’t take this message the wrong way, but I disagree playing sports, and other activities with straight men helps formulate becoming male. If that helps you and others, that is fine. However, I dislike any type of sports, and I really don’t follow and I don’t like, any of the stereotypys that most straight males follow. It’s just not me, and it is not the personality who I am.
Also, if some post homosexual men choose to live a life of celibacy, and live for Christ for the rest of their lives, then why would one’s sexual change matter if you are not going to get married? What purpose does sexuality serve for someone who chooses to remain celibate? In a sense, celibate means just that, not having sexual relations with anyone.
Thank You
Hi James,
I’m not so sure that the video really captured all of what Hayden was trying to explain …
I would agree that it’s not just the sport but it goes much deeper then that.
A few years ago I went to my neices baby shower .. my older sister had her first baby 4 years ago and having come out of being transgendered I stuck out like a soar thumb among these women but felt a little at ease because I was with my sisters, cousins, and my sisters friends most of whom I’ve known for most of my life. I even had a conversation with one lady about the gay community in Toronto and I’m from Vancouver … I know nothing about the gay community in Toronto and little about the gay community in Vancouver even but that’s besides the point.
I honestly believe that what Hayden was trying to make a point was is that he found a way to meet some of his legitimate needs in relationship with other men that was non sexual and it just so happens he was able to do that by hangin out with the guys and it just so happens that it involved sports. I don’t believe it was the sport itself but rather the relationship formed with the men via the sports.
Hello, I hope you don’t take this message the wrong way, but I disagree playing sports, and other activities with straight men helps formulate becoming male. If that helps you and others, that is fine. However, I dislike any type of sports, and I really don’t follow and I don’t like, any of the stereotypys that most straight males follow. It’s just not me, and it is not the personality who I am.
Also, if some post homosexual men choose to live a life of celibacy, and live for Christ for the rest of their lives, then why would one’s sexual change matter if you are not going to get married? What purpose does sexuality serve for someone who chooses to remain celibate? In a sense, celibate means just that, not having sexual relations with anyone.
Thank You
Hi James,
I’m not so sure that the video really captured all of what Hayden was trying to explain …
I would agree that it’s not just the sport but it goes much deeper then that.
A few years ago I went to my neices baby shower .. my older sister had her first baby 4 years ago and having come out of being transgendered I stuck out like a soar thumb among these women but felt a little at ease because I was with my sisters, cousins, and my sisters friends most of whom I’ve known for most of my life. I even had a conversation with one lady about the gay community in Toronto and I’m from Vancouver … I know nothing about the gay community in Toronto and little about the gay community in Vancouver even but that’s besides the point.
I honestly believe that what Hayden was trying to make a point was is that he found a way to meet some of his legitimate needs in relationship with other men that was non sexual and it just so happens he was able to do that by hangin out with the guys and it just so happens that it involved sports. I don’t believe it was the sport itself but rather the relationship formed with the men via the sports.
“Someone suggested I blog about how this process (post-gay journey) might actually be more difficult for people raised in the church than for people who became Christian later in life. I don’t know that this is true and am still thinking through it.”
I grew up in the church and I have to say there are challenges but I’m not so sure that these challenges are any harder then say for somebody who never was raised in the church. I believe our experiences itself will determine how difficult the journey is. I believe our support system or lack thereof will either make things more difficult or will benefit us and be truly that much needed support.
I had the most amazing support from my youth pastor and his wife. I heard of the Post Gay testimony relatively early in life … I was 14 when I first came to believe that I didn’t have to be gay or rather I knew that God was calling me into a life beyond being gay.
So … from my perspective growing up in the church I’m not so sure my testimony is any more difficult then one who was not raised in the church. I’m just saying it really truly depends on what church, the people in our lives, our Pastor and our family and whether or not these various people in our lives have a healthy response or not. I’m fortunate that although I have had some unhealthy experiences in the church for the most part my experience in the church, with my youth pastor and family has made a world of a difference in my life and believe that having had faith in Christ as a child is one major component to my returning to faith in Christ. There are many people who never share that same experience of having come to faith in Christ very early in life like I did. So, I am convinced that it’s not so much having grown up in the church but rather our experience with the church.
I grew up in the church and had a relatively healthy experience although not perfect … those who never had been raised in the church has had a very poor experience and their experiences is what keeps them away from the church. It’s really debatable to say it’s harder for those of us who grew up in the church and I say this as one who had been raised in the church.
“Someone suggested I blog about how this process (post-gay journey) might actually be more difficult for people raised in the church than for people who became Christian later in life. I don’t know that this is true and am still thinking through it.”
I grew up in the church and I have to say there are challenges but I’m not so sure that these challenges are any harder then say for somebody who never was raised in the church. I believe our experiences itself will determine how difficult the journey is. I believe our support system or lack thereof will either make things more difficult or will benefit us and be truly that much needed support.
I had the most amazing support from my youth pastor and his wife. I heard of the Post Gay testimony relatively early in life … I was 14 when I first came to believe that I didn’t have to be gay or rather I knew that God was calling me into a life beyond being gay.
So … from my perspective growing up in the church I’m not so sure my testimony is any more difficult then one who was not raised in the church. I’m just saying it really truly depends on what church, the people in our lives, our Pastor and our family and whether or not these various people in our lives have a healthy response or not. I’m fortunate that although I have had some unhealthy experiences in the church for the most part my experience in the church, with my youth pastor and family has made a world of a difference in my life and believe that having had faith in Christ as a child is one major component to my returning to faith in Christ. There are many people who never share that same experience of having come to faith in Christ very early in life like I did. So, I am convinced that it’s not so much having grown up in the church but rather our experience with the church.
I grew up in the church and had a relatively healthy experience although not perfect … those who never had been raised in the church has had a very poor experience and their experiences is what keeps them away from the church. It’s really debatable to say it’s harder for those of us who grew up in the church and I say this as one who had been raised in the church.
Yes Sarah, I agree with you. It is debatable. I too grew up in the church. I grew up in a Pentecostal background, and my father is a bible theologian. However, in my experience, it seems like there was a lot of pressure placed on males being male in the church, and males were expected to take on a lot of responsibilities. I didn’t fit into their mold nor I wanted to fit into their mold of their characteristics and personalities. I wanted to be me as an individual not like other people. I liked the individual I was and am not talking about the sin of homosexuality, of course, but my own person. I think the difference between growing up in the church, and growing up in the world, homosexuality is planted within a person that it is contrary to nature from the time when I you are in Sunday school, to the age of an adult. That is what happened in my personal experience. I never dated my whole life, and I never had sexual relationships in my life, but I knew, no doubt that I was most defiantly a homosexual male. I’m not saying I’m better than anyone because I didn’t act upon on the homosexuality because I have a lot to deal with. I’m just saying that growing up within in the church had a positive on my life that I really believe saved my life from going into a world that would have taken me deeper into a pit. However, even though I didn’t follow through living a homosexual life, and I didn’t give my heart to Jesus at the time, life was so bleak and I felt so separated from God very strongly. It was an awful feeling and real empty. Once I became a Christian, a joy sprung up inside of me like a constant eternal fountain. It was incredible! I still have homosexual issues to deal with, and I do have ups and downs now in then. But over all, going back to a life with out Jesus? No way!
I think in the world, there is condemnation in society placed upon homosexuality and other types of sexual lifestyles, but at the same time, there is also a free for all in which life is lived with no absolutes, and people tend to make up their individual what is right and what is wrong to fit within there own lives. So I think growing up with out a biblical foundation you can get deeper into homosexuality. I’m not trying to over generalize people because it depends on the individual. I’m just saying the people in the world have no sense of direction, and there is real darkness. I think it is fantastic Jesus have and is, calling people out of darkness! It is so fantastic
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Yes Sarah, I agree with you. It is debatable. I too grew up in the church. I grew up in a Pentecostal background, and my father is a bible theologian. However, in my experience, it seems like there was a lot of pressure placed on males being male in the church, and males were expected to take on a lot of responsibilities. I didn’t fit into their mold nor I wanted to fit into their mold of their characteristics and personalities. I wanted to be me as an individual not like other people. I liked the individual I was and am not talking about the sin of homosexuality, of course, but my own person. I think the difference between growing up in the church, and growing up in the world, homosexuality is planted within a person that it is contrary to nature from the time when I you are in Sunday school, to the age of an adult. That is what happened in my personal experience. I never dated my whole life, and I never had sexual relationships in my life, but I knew, no doubt that I was most defiantly a homosexual male. I’m not saying I’m better than anyone because I didn’t act upon on the homosexuality because I have a lot to deal with. I’m just saying that growing up within in the church had a positive on my life that I really believe saved my life from going into a world that would have taken me deeper into a pit. However, even though I didn’t follow through living a homosexual life, and I didn’t give my heart to Jesus at the time, life was so bleak and I felt so separated from God very strongly. It was an awful feeling and real empty. Once I became a Christian, a joy sprung up inside of me like a constant eternal fountain. It was incredible! I still have homosexual issues to deal with, and I do have ups and downs now in then. But over all, going back to a life with out Jesus? No way!
I think in the world, there is condemnation in society placed upon homosexuality and other types of sexual lifestyles, but at the same time, there is also a free for all in which life is lived with no absolutes, and people tend to make up their individual what is right and what is wrong to fit within there own lives. So I think growing up with out a biblical foundation you can get deeper into homosexuality. I’m not trying to over generalize people because it depends on the individual. I’m just saying the people in the world have no sense of direction, and there is real darkness. I think it is fantastic Jesus have and is, calling people out of darkness! It is so fantastic
By The Way, Thank You So Much For Clarifying That Factor Mentioned About Sports In The Video Blog, You’re Really Awesome!