Comments on: Disney Makes Right Decision Concerning “Ex-Gay” Policy http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2010/03/15/disney-makes-right-decision-for-a-different-reason/ Welcome! Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:08:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Box Turtle Bulletin » Did God Smite Jesus Statue In Blatant Act of Ex-Gay Discrimination? http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2010/03/15/disney-makes-right-decision-for-a-different-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-23723 Box Turtle Bulletin » Did God Smite Jesus Statue In Blatant Act of Ex-Gay Discrimination? Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:47:03 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=1333#comment-23723 [...] discriminated against by the LGBT community and society. That’s a claim that is too bizarre even for Exodus International vice president Randy Thomas. But it may not be too bizarre for God. [...] [...] discriminated against by the LGBT community and society. That’s a claim that is too bizarre even for Exodus International vice president Randy Thomas. But it may not be too bizarre for God. [...]

]]> By: College Jay http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2010/03/15/disney-makes-right-decision-for-a-different-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-11531 College Jay Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:54:25 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=1333#comment-11531 I'm assuming that Disney already has both religion (which would include Christianity) and sexual orientation (homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual) as protected classes in their non-discrimination policy. That just makes the PFOX effort to get "ex-gays" added to the list all the more confusing. If a person has experienced orientation change, then they are protected since they are heterosexual. If a person has not experienced orientation change but is still living a chaste life because of their religious beliefs, then they are protected due to their faith. Of course there are going to be personal conflicts between people over the many facets of their identities. People argue about politics, religion, sexual orientation, and whether or not techno is good music. That's life, and sometimes it sucks, but the government doesn't need to get in the way. As long as no one is losing their job over their religious views or their personal romantic relationships, I'm cool with it. I agree with this post. It's true that it's just silly to keep adding labels to politically protected classes. The only thing I disagree with is the idea that we are all just Christians and nothing more or less. It's true, Christ is the most important part of our lives, but there are a million other things that make you Randy and me Jay, and those are important parts to our identity. It's okay to give them names and labels (Democrat, Republican, brother, son, uncle, teacher, student, Catholic, Protestant, etc.) and talk about them like adults, as long as we don't let any one of them become 100% of who we are. I’m assuming that Disney already has both religion (which would include Christianity) and sexual orientation (homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual) as protected classes in their non-discrimination policy. That just makes the PFOX effort to get “ex-gays” added to the list all the more confusing. If a person has experienced orientation change, then they are protected since they are heterosexual. If a person has not experienced orientation change but is still living a chaste life because of their religious beliefs, then they are protected due to their faith. Of course there are going to be personal conflicts between people over the many facets of their identities. People argue about politics, religion, sexual orientation, and whether or not techno is good music. That’s life, and sometimes it sucks, but the government doesn’t need to get in the way. As long as no one is losing their job over their religious views or their personal romantic relationships, I’m cool with it.

I agree with this post. It’s true that it’s just silly to keep adding labels to politically protected classes. The only thing I disagree with is the idea that we are all just Christians and nothing more or less. It’s true, Christ is the most important part of our lives, but there are a million other things that make you Randy and me Jay, and those are important parts to our identity. It’s okay to give them names and labels (Democrat, Republican, brother, son, uncle, teacher, student, Catholic, Protestant, etc.) and talk about them like adults, as long as we don’t let any one of them become 100% of who we are.

]]> By: College Jay http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2010/03/15/disney-makes-right-decision-for-a-different-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-29369 College Jay Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:54:00 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=1333#comment-29369 I'm assuming that Disney already has both religion (which would include Christianity) and sexual orientation (homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual) as protected classes in their non-discrimination policy. That just makes the PFOX effort to get "ex-gays" added to the list all the more confusing. If a person has experienced orientation change, then they are protected since they are heterosexual. If a person has not experienced orientation change but is still living a chaste life because of their religious beliefs, then they are protected due to their faith. Of course there are going to be personal conflicts between people over the many facets of their identities. People argue about politics, religion, sexual orientation, and whether or not techno is good music. That's life, and sometimes it sucks, but the government doesn't need to get in the way. As long as no one is losing their job over their religious views or their personal romantic relationships, I'm cool with it. I agree with this post. It's true that it's just silly to keep adding labels to politically protected classes. The only thing I disagree with is the idea that we are all just Christians and nothing more or less. It's true, Christ is the most important part of our lives, but there are a million other things that make you Randy and me Jay, and those are important parts to our identity. It's okay to give them names and labels (Democrat, Republican, brother, son, uncle, teacher, student, Catholic, Protestant, etc.) and talk about them like adults, as long as we don't let any one of them become 100% of who we are. I’m assuming that Disney already has both religion (which would include Christianity) and sexual orientation (homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual) as protected classes in their non-discrimination policy. That just makes the PFOX effort to get “ex-gays” added to the list all the more confusing. If a person has experienced orientation change, then they are protected since they are heterosexual. If a person has not experienced orientation change but is still living a chaste life because of their religious beliefs, then they are protected due to their faith. Of course there are going to be personal conflicts between people over the many facets of their identities. People argue about politics, religion, sexual orientation, and whether or not techno is good music. That’s life, and sometimes it sucks, but the government doesn’t need to get in the way. As long as no one is losing their job over their religious views or their personal romantic relationships, I’m cool with it.

I agree with this post. It’s true that it’s just silly to keep adding labels to politically protected classes. The only thing I disagree with is the idea that we are all just Christians and nothing more or less. It’s true, Christ is the most important part of our lives, but there are a million other things that make you Randy and me Jay, and those are important parts to our identity. It’s okay to give them names and labels (Democrat, Republican, brother, son, uncle, teacher, student, Catholic, Protestant, etc.) and talk about them like adults, as long as we don’t let any one of them become 100% of who we are.

]]> By: Box Turtle Bulletin » Exodus VP: “Disney Makes Right Decision Concerning ‘Ex-Gay’ Policy” http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2010/03/15/disney-makes-right-decision-for-a-different-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-11519 Box Turtle Bulletin » Exodus VP: “Disney Makes Right Decision Concerning ‘Ex-Gay’ Policy” Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:55:19 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=1333#comment-11519 [...] Exodus International vice president Randy Thomas thinks Disney made the right call, and finds PFOX’s messaging “confusing”: It appears they are doing a “find and replace” word processing function on their [...] [...] Exodus International vice president Randy Thomas thinks Disney made the right call, and finds PFOX’s messaging “confusing”: It appears they are doing a “find and replace” word processing function on their [...]

]]> By: Thom Hunter http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2010/03/15/disney-makes-right-decision-for-a-different-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-11509 Thom Hunter Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:28:48 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=1333#comment-11509 I agree with you Randy. Disney made the right decision in this case. While I am comfortable using the ex-gay label for definition in the proper circles when it is of genuine value, I don't label myself that way as a rule. I am free. I'm a Christian who has experienced God's grace and moved forward as a result of His forgiveness to be what I should be. The world is full of people who are "ex-somethings," who were freed of something. But we don't grant special rights to them just for overcoming. We just thank God. I agree with you Randy. Disney made the right decision in this case. While I am comfortable using the ex-gay label for definition in the proper circles when it is of genuine value, I don’t label myself that way as a rule. I am free. I’m a Christian who has experienced God’s grace and moved forward as a result of His forgiveness to be what I should be. The world is full of people who are “ex-somethings,” who were freed of something. But we don’t grant special rights to them just for overcoming. We just thank God.

]]> By: Thom Hunter http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2010/03/15/disney-makes-right-decision-for-a-different-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-29368 Thom Hunter Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:28:00 +0000 http://blog.exodusinternational.org/?p=1333#comment-29368 I agree with you Randy. Disney made the right decision in this case. While I am comfortable using the ex-gay label for definition in the proper circles when it is of genuine value, I don't label myself that way as a rule. I am free. I'm a Christian who has experienced God's grace and moved forward as a result of His forgiveness to be what I should be. The world is full of people who are "ex-somethings," who were freed of something. But we don't grant special rights to them just for overcoming. We just thank God. I agree with you Randy. Disney made the right decision in this case. While I am comfortable using the ex-gay label for definition in the proper circles when it is of genuine value, I don’t label myself that way as a rule. I am free. I’m a Christian who has experienced God’s grace and moved forward as a result of His forgiveness to be what I should be. The world is full of people who are “ex-somethings,” who were freed of something. But we don’t grant special rights to them just for overcoming. We just thank God.

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